tv The Stream 2017 Ep 163 Al Jazeera October 12, 2017 11:32am-12:02pm AST
day amid a deepening political crisis over the future of the catalonia region independence and pro unity rallies are expected across the country the madrid government has given catalan leader ridgemont five days to say whether or not he has declared independence two more people are confirmed dead from wildfires in the us state of california bringing the total number of people killed to twenty three hundreds of fire engines and crews are being rushed to the state from other areas to try and contain the flames more than three thousand homes and businesses have been destroyed many of them in the wine country. several severe flooding in vietnam has killed at least thirty seven people and left forty others missing rain has lashed several provinces in central and northern vietnam. and the u.s. secretary of state rex tillerson has expressed his her found concern over the detention of american diplomatic staff in turkey to listeners called on the turkish government to provide evidence for claims u.s.
embassy employees were linked to the twenty sixteen failed coup the american embassy in turkey has suspended most faeces services causing turkey to retaliate and those are the headlines the stream is next on are just there. the nature as a great. way. to get more during the week with detailed coverage this is what you mean when you go to find. hundreds like these up against ford in the past few months from around the world there are also hundreds of thousands of arabs that have arrived here in recent years i saw they feel very let down by the baghdad government. and i really am here in the stream live on you tube today a stream update issues brought to us by you our community will. become an african
country this is a time when secessionist movement are getting louder and then we'll meet a journalist who took a puzzle joy out of the practice. from the outer correspondent joins us but first why was sure i'd added to the recently amended white house travel ban a new social media campaign is urging the united states to reconsider here's a backer of the story. country the fight against terrorism needs to be on or needs to be respected and needs to be worked closely with and that's why one child was put on a travel ban by the usa judging people were shocked more surprise why would you put chad on the travel ban list and that's why we started high fat child travel ban to ask why god has been banned doesn't make sense there is no logic behind it and there are no data supporting it and our side has been supported by so many people
globally and has called that nation of so many international organizations and we feel the objectives of the high status were met because now people are aware reus judging people again is this back and we're asking why the bank has happened and why. also surely though we are fighting against terrorism and we have excellent relationship with all countries. not many people know why chavez was put on the white house travel ban that was updated in late september the country has been an ally of the united states in the african continent u.s. president donald trump's executive order has said chad does not adequately share public safety in terrorism relating to mention several terrorist groups acting within chad or in the surrounding region including elements of. isis west africa and al-qaeda in islamic magreb tatts government has issued a statement asking the white house to reconsider i want to have a baca mobilize online to put pressure on the u.s. government to explain itself well joining us now is bring him to hope is age how to
get a university student at the george washington university and reed brody is a lawyer with human rights watch who spent eighteen years helping victims of the former dictator of chad has a welcome to the stream gentlemen i want to start with a tweet on my laptop to treat actually this is your green and i'm going to pass this over to you a great ham your brain says i don't think this decision was made on logical reasons and reliable information the impact will be painful on china and students businessmen and immigrants so but describes you at least one of them a child even student what is the impact been like on you have you felt anything yet of course we know it goes into the effect on the eighteenth of october but just in even the lead up to it what's the impact been well you know it's definitely brought a lot of attention to my country and you know you have many students being very interactive with us asking us questions regarding how they can help. personally you
know many family members planning to come visit me but unfortunately tourist visas have been stopped so they won't be able to come but as a student know there's there's not really a big impact on when you first reaction when you heard the story on the. good reaction wasn't just that definitely thought fake news really yeah because there was that was the last thing that would cross my mind because you know as a strategic ally within the region. we were really the last people you know that would be added on the bench let recess on the roof read brendan's twitter. i'm no fan of child. mokes no sense read about this for us what is it not to move and why well you know i mean first of all no country should be in the travel ban but you know even in trump in terms this just makes no sense i mean the irony here is that as as as abu bakar said before
a main reason that the u.s. supports the autocratic corrupt regime in chad is precisely because it is a lynchpin of counterterrorism efforts and in a very volatile region the chaldean military works. you know fighting boko haram in nigeria and cameroon it helped defeat an al qaeda offshoot that had split mali and it plays host to major u.s. military exercises i mean if you wanted to pressure the chatting government on human rights or on democracy let's remember that you just debbie has been the president for twenty seven years now that would be welcome but counterterrorism is the one thing that the chatting government actually seems to do very well so it really it just makes no sense i'm glad actually that you mentioned that you actually use one of the words that one of our tweeters also use linchpin this is
a cost though and he got into a little bit of an exchange with someone else on twitter he said chat in nigeria is where boko haram are active he got knocked down pretty readily by someone else says i'm a backer who says get your facts right. chad fought against boko haram in nigeria and defeated them similar to what you just said read but i want to posit over to something else now this is just a theory but i want to show you something that we got from several members of our community this this is a tweet from c. who says i think this has to do with rex tillerson the secretary of state arm twisting the chad government after they slam seventy four billion dollar fine and overdue royalties on exxon mobil here's what that actually looked like this is news report that came out in june exxon suttles dispute with chad over tax payments and avoid that avoided a seventy four billion dollar fine breed what do you make of that idea
definitely a theory but what do you make of it well i mean obviously i mean it was sort of i have to say it was one of the first things that i thought of but when you when you think that realize that the matter was started. that exxon had licenses chad as his major oil deposits you know again here i mean human rights good government anti-corruption people the chad and people have been pressing the government to use that oil money in a transparent way that's good for all the people of chad and and the world bank and others have basically been trying to hold chad's feet to the fire exxon came in and said basically we don't care what you do with the money we want to we want to exploit oil and make money. and so i don't know and so i don't know that exxon's role here from the very beginning has been has been that positive but
i don't think that they have a particular interest right now in upping the ante chad could very well retaliate and then where would exxon mobil be so we did a little child by the numbers. so you can fact check this for us on my account why would chad be on the travel ban have a look at what we came up with and then look to see what is the relationship between tried in the u.s. one hundred forty one giants and to the u.s. this is in the past year. one of them could have been one of your relatives perhaps seventy nine chads with a u.s. patent residence in the last yet and the number of top ins refugees allowed into the u.s. so. abraham it's not like there's a big. plane of telegrams in the u.s. what's the point is not care these numbers are definitely not surprising a large majority of the chaldeans whenever they do travel would travel to european countries france germany many students actually go to school in north africa to
news from oracle area so there's not really a large presence of chaldeans within the united states the majority of them come here either as businessmen or diplomats here you know the embassies in new york city and washington d.c. so there's definitely not a large number of visitors that come here from like chad we actually just got this comment via you tube because of course we're streaming live on you tube this is casa who says the ban was meant to punish countries that don't obey us orders it has nothing to do with human rights read. well there are a lot of again i mean no country should be on the travel ban i mean let's be let's be let's be you know. let's look at the big picture here i mean the travel ban was created to implement donald trump's promise to keep moslems out of the u.s. and this travel ban three point zero basically through in venezuela and north korea
to to you know to enemies of the u.s. and one just has to speculate that. they were looking for another country to throw into it to dilute the list a little bit i mean there are a lot of countries in the world that don't support the u.s. foreign policy that are not on this list and chad generally is supportive of u.s. foreign policy i mean that that again is is is the big irony here so many parts of this are right i think our community would say. and bring him back you so much for joining us we have to leave it here but thank you for your perspective we'll continue to follow this story now to protest in cameroon perhaps one of our most requested stories to follow up on by our community this is lave a journalist who pitched this story to us. since the first time we spoke here on the street about the protests and the situation was actually was you're seeing an increase in the death toll nor for some other guy who died as
a result of this crisis i mean you also seen that the people have shifted yet you want from what the initial you started demanding last year which were reforms we ask you for reforms because in schools in the way french and english has been used for more and more people here in the last two three months are now demanding full independence asking for separate countries from the present day country when. i go phone separatist movement in the south west northwest the cameroon is gaining momentum protests have been raging for a year now shutting down schools and courts and recent violence between security forces and opposition activists killed more than seven thousand people and that's according to amnesty international cameroonian president who has condemned the deaths and his government has refuted reports of a massacre in the region both sides are calling for dialogue a resolution here to discuss the ongoing issue with us eugene from what he's a cameroonian journalist for the stand the tribune thanks for joining us thanks for
coming back it's almost a year since you were last here let me share this with you from judith do you says the violence by cameron army has advocated the situation radicalized a made more extremist need to demilitarize the southern cameroons what are you seeing what are you hearing what are you reporting on the atmosphere if you could take us into these english speaking regions what we see. right in the situation in the english parts of cameroon can best be described as an ease or calm sense violence of two one remember the look of one is the year that the date on which the english part of cameroon became independent and then joined the french speaking part of the country to form coralie cameroon and on that they activists came out to symbolically clabber independence of the state because as one
of your listeners us pointed out it's become an increasing demand. for the creation of a new state of a muslim you're all sovereign cameroon's so right now the region is tense it's not certain that ask who's actually resumed actually quite stressed yet to see lawyers show up and the number of troops in the region has gone up more than three forms this side of the season broken allow it sounds strong drew what was still talking about the theory that little right at the pump from. now it's always been there the separatist movement. from cameroon has been there for decades except that up for a long time it had been government and when the demands speak out late last year for reforms in the way that language is used in arrest fact. cultural link we state
aswell as the gun and educational difference is that the kind of rip kindled they separate to spirit and to why the government was delaying in responding to these issues and preferring to use force to crack now have a separate he has found a space and sprung up and have now taken over the struggle. you know eugene we've gotten of course a lot of tweets about this and many of them are from people pushing for the independence movement but we also know that the internet was blocked for some time and so how people are getting around that is interesting this is john he says the movement has evolved with social media blockage a group of angle phones based in south africa launched as c.b.c. t.v. which is satellite based and the news is mostly directed to anger from people because they had no other way of talking about their issues eugene how are communications right now and is of an effective way of making sure that people in
the diaspora can talk back to people in the country i think one of the major consequence of the blockage of the internet was the creation of the southern cameroons forecasting corporation which has been doing a lot of. imports and writing them a search of a separate is. broadcast in past satellite and so many people in the most remote parts of and reform can rule with simple satellite dishes your rules can receive signals and they have been communicating a lot so they have been able to mobilize and educate people contacts and to come out on mass to product to protest as we saw on the one so china has been very instrumental the government. still have to shut down the internet right
as we speak that internet is only partially parts of the north west and southwest so there's an incident on shutdown let me just ask you this about cameron's anglophone crisis and we were asking our community. economic deprivation is about language is it a cultural issue this is what often says all military or other trainings in tamarind a most official documents are done in france no one cares about the angle of that it's still the issue or has it changed in the past. that hasn't really changed i mean the government has created something they're calling a multicultural commission liberalism and multicultural commission which she is intended to address issues like this i'll bet at this point we still see a lot of communication coming out of government offices in french it's interesting
to note that the language of command in the country military is french which means that forms of yours must take orders and present. and so it's things like this that have caused many and willfulness to feel that there is a systematic attempt to raise your identity especially at the level of the manhood the government teat to something that is interesting launching after the first time in the sixty year history of a country a department of. english instruction at the school of magistracy an administration which is a school that traces the country's top where the streets and administrators just happen this year and the first students are currently being enrolled thank you so much for joining us with a keeping an eye on the progress of what's happening in cameroon and the protests as well as will in touch with what's happening down on the ground now. why
when you talk to men they don't even know what. you know what actually happens when i go. i don't know and i am. going to have a daughter. how would you feel if someone said she needed to make up. well joining us now from stockholm sweden my friend and journalist foxman i welcome to the stream fatah that had to have been
a powerful moment for you to sit there and watch them watch after him in and practice these said we have not seen it and we don't know how it's done so i want to start here with this tweet this is from tony of men after him he says what specific role does foxman think men can play in the fight against g.m. taking to enter into mind your experiences there in kenya. it was record a very powerful to witness that moment i personally couldn't watch the video but to me footing their next of them hearing the cry of the baby until today it's been home to me that scream and then just watching that reaction or not i didn't need to watch the video i just watched it and then after just after like you thought in the clip movie that they can back they had never seen it before it becomes always done behind closed doors so we didn't really know what it actually entailed and i could
see that it shook them. i do believe that. in from cultures. they are the called the witness. grabbing points behind but they can also be a bigger world because a company would be grown and didn't and again it depends on the specific culture and good depend and good to the country so we cannot have that everywhere but i do believe that men played a big word in ending. that coal all status so interested to know why she did not go to a child all you see is pia and you saw a story has changed in a generation that almost seen you as an as an activist. yeah i'm really from italy are there too don't know why we didn't go to editorial and we chose to go faster so i might and i'm. sure just a clue that we couldn't go and do a three hour and the second reason is we wanted to go to a country where if g.m.
is still legal so i will have the highest rate if g.m. prevalence it's ninety eight percent so journalistically that was the obvious choice for us. at the no two and i was already in the driving for and i knew that were going to in my journey it was going to end in sweden where in the firm i end up sitting with or through in woman or my mother through innovation and i do talk to my mother in the film as well so we did not need to go to editorial. and the goodies and want to we went to go to you know mentioned your mother there of course was the most touching poignant moment for me as well watching you because i know you're a journalist and then having to bring in your family into this this this documentary of fraud and twitter it took her to she says please as fox not all about her mom being featured in the dock featuring the mom was the most touching
bit for me how did your relationship change after that and what were the consequences of having your mom talk about a sensitive topic. it was very difficult and to be honest with you the moments leading up to starting filming and throughout the whole journey in the back had and back of my had i was constant thinking about my mom and i then learned about the severity and what actually happens when you're cut despite me doing or might be such a knowing about all the facts and the figures nothing to pad me for meeting women who told me about. the difficulty that they faced so i would do it was difficult. and the moment when i sat down with my mother to africa i was very relieved to know that she did not have to she was cut but she had type one. in comparison to what the other ladies i met in in a moment and then it came out her. hair cut would not be
a one for that regularly but since then i feel that our relationship but become more open not just with my mother it's with my father as well because for the first time i've i can hear him talk about this it's what are you doing to hear him talk to my mom and ask. he didn't know about because it's not something that you talk about and not just because it's a taboo it was just not something you talk about day like a regular topic so now everyone is talking about it men are finding messages to my father telling him about how they feel about the firm and been really positive feedback and i'm also getting a lot of messages from men shouting that are so stiff experiences that my most experience of them saying that yes we want to talk about this so that openness about this topic i'm talking about it with my mother with my lips she struggled she washed actually we washed them together when it first. aired and. talking
about it and i do believe open it being open about the topic and. number of talk about it i do believe that this could be one of the key deeds and it's too hard we can. wait a while we can actually and actually i'm globally so we got this question here we have just about thirty seconds left but. what percentage of people you interviewed use religion as a reason to continue the practice so barely. cultured with actually much much time going to listen because like you could see from the phone there is no ordination that said that this was acceptable and it's just it's just a culture with mainly mention and i also want to emphasize that this is not an african problem it's a global problem it would. it's a global it's a global issue and it's important to remember that was not just an african problem that my naive is
a generous she's also an al-jazeera correspondent serious you should watch this film it's remarkable the cut exploding f.d.m. you can watch it online right now at al jazeera dot com thank you so much for what . you can i will see online as always. china's property. fields become cities rivers water parks forests parking. mostly empty. brings international performance the illusion of a thriving metropolis and the mix even in the final bill economy chinese dream
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